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Question Dedicated USB for Android/Apple Auto is Abysmal

What is your experience using the dedicated USB port?

One thing I've noticed is the USB charge rate can't keep up with my phones drain rate. Fwiw, I own a Samsung S7 (ver. 7). Is Hyundai using USB 1.0???

On a typical drive I'll have Waze open (I've also tried using Google maps) and Google music playing and from my drive work to home I might lose 10-15% battery life. This is insane considering my drive to work is only ~10 miles and 15 minutes away! I've even left it connected, turned off any maps and music player and still get the same results. With that said if I were to drive 2+ hours on a road trip it might be plausible that my phone would die.

Has anyone taken a loooooooong road trip using Android/Apple connected the entire length of the trip? What was your battery life experience?

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Itís a Samsung thing. I use apple car play with apple maps while streaming music via google play music and my iPhone 7+ will be fully charged after a trip.
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Itís a Samsung thing. I use apple car play with apple maps while streaming music via google play music and my iPhone 7+ will be fully charged after a trip.
I definitely have to give credit to Apple for their battery utilization.

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Agreed. I have a Nexus 6P which does not drain but certainly does not charge much when running Android Auto. Unfortunately, you can't run AA AND get a good charge (Nexus 6P has a battery bug which it shuts off anywhere from 50 to 15 percent batt...)

Anyone know if it would be possible to up the charging amperage?
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I'd say sorta Samsung (probably Android mostly to be honest) vs. Apple.
But that being said, I don't believe the USB port is a 2.1 amp or whatever the "highest" charging it can be.

Even with a full high-powered USB port, my old Galaxy S4 could barely maintain the same charge vs. my iPhone 6s (which would actually re-charge) when using maps, for example, when hooked up to my old Pioneer 4000 NEX (using the Pioneer app).

I believe that Google had an Android update in version 5 (?) that basically left the location services on all the time (you'd turn it off and within a minute or two it'd turn it back on) so that maps could be improved. even when you weren't using maps. Folks were PO'd due to the battery drain.

Now, I'm not sure if you can do this on Android, but I thought I'd seen some sort of funky-ass cable where you could split it (It was like a Y cable) where the one would connect to the USB for AA, and the other to the high-powered USB charger plugged into the cigarette lighter.

I have *no* idea how well that works.

Personally I wish I could have a phone that combined the best of Android and iOS, but that ain't gonna happen.
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I have both Android and iPhones and whoever said it is a Samsung thing is wrong. And it is not a Hyundai thing either. When using USB for data, devices will only draw .5A. That is a USB thing, as it uses the data lines to communicate charging rate (amperage). And of course there is no way to use quick charging when using a USB data connection such as AA/Carplay.

If I am using my iPhone 7 Plus while navigating and listening to music it will barely keep up with the battery. Without navigation, and only streaming music, it will do better--and do best when it is just plugged in and not doing anything. This is nearly the same as my LG V20 (Android) or my wife's Samsung S8.

I have a USB Y cable that lets me at least charge at 1A from one connector, and use Android Auto with the other, which charges a bit better than stock. But if I really need to charge fast I use my USB 12v fast charger.

I should note that Android Auto and Carplay can both now be done wirelessly. But no Hyundai can do that. It needs a head unit that can use wifi and bluetooth for Android Auto. I think only one car has a radio that can do it, but I haven't checked in a few months. You would still need to plug in your phone, since now it will be using even more power since it will be potentially using 4G, Wifi, Bluetooth, streaming music, and map navigating at the same time. But at least you could connect to a fast charger.

I would personally like wireless AA/Carplay for quick trips where I don't feel like plugging in my phone.



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I have both Android and iPhones and whoever said it is a Samsung thing is wrong. And it is not a Hyundai thing either. When using USB for data, devices will only draw .5A. That is a USB thing, as it uses the data lines to communicate charging rate (amperage). And of course there is no way to use quick charging when using a USB data connection such as AA/Carplay.

If I am using my iPhone 7 Plus while navigating and listening to music it will barely keep up with the battery. Without navigation, and only streaming music, it will do better--and do best when it is just plugged in and not doing anything. This is nearly the same as my LG V20 (Android) or my wife's Samsung S8.

I have a USB Y cable that lets me at least charge at 1A from one connector, and use Android Auto with the other, which charges a bit better than stock. But if I really need to charge fast I use my USB 12v fast charger.

I should note that Android Auto and Carplay can both now be done wirelessly. But no Hyundai can do that. It needs a head unit that can use wifi and bluetooth for Android Auto. I think only one car has a radio that can do it, but I haven't checked in a few months. You would still need to plug in your phone, since now it will be using even more power since it will be potentially using 4G, Wifi, Bluetooth, streaming music, and map navigating at the same time. But at least you could connect to a fast charger.

I would personally like wireless AA/Carplay for quick trips where I don't feel like plugging in my phone.



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Huh, mine seems t work completely different. I was on a long haul with Maps, and music running the whole time (Apple Maps, and Music) via Carplay. Phone was at 83% battery starting out. Within about 30 minutes it was almost 100% charged. And of course, sucking up the 4G LTE data during the time since Maps has to fetch the data.

Although this is on a 2017 SFS with an iPhone 6s and the regular old lightning cable. I think iPhone 7 uses USB-C? (although dunno if that would make a difference).

Also the .5A was for USB 1.0 for PC/Desktops only. The actual spec for USB 1.2 compliance allows for up to 5A (yes, 5A) for DCP and CDP (at least according to the spec document PDF).

This goes into a bit more detail and Apple, as usual is "special":



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(read towards the bottom where the Apple spec provides 1A as required by certification)


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I'm so glad to see this wasn't an isolated issue. Seriously, Hyundai could quickly resolve this if they upgraded the USB port to C-class. I don't understand why this is so difficult considering it wouldn't entail a retrofit. Heck the cable itself is pennies.

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