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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-15-2011, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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I just spent almost $1,500 and had the timing belt, tensioner, pulley, and
two belts replaced on my 2004 Santa Fe 3.5 L V6 at a Hyundai dealership --
plus other service that was done at the same time that was included in the
$1,500 (transmission service, cooling system flush, oil change, throttle
body cleaning, etc.). I had to go back a few days later due to a noisy
rattling sound in the engine compartment, and they said it needs a new power
steering pump. They said the cost to install a new pump and pressure hose
is about $800 to $900. They said that part of why the cost is so high is
the cost of the parts. They also said that when replacing the pump the
pressure hose always gets replaced at the same time. The vehicle has 77,000
miles on it and I am the second owner, so it is not covered under any
warranty.

Unfortunately, I didn't know beforehand that the whole job, plus the $900
power steering pump and hose was going to end up costing $2,300 to $2,400.
If I knew that up front, I would have just traded it in and bought a newer
Santa Fe -- maybe a 2009 or 2010 still under warranty. But now I have to
decide about getting the power steering pump and hose replaced.

How hard is it to access and replace the power steering pump and hose on
this vehicle? Is there some much more reasonably priced way to get this
done? -- such as buy the parts and do it myself, or have it done elsewhere
not at a dealership?
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Go get 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinions, dont tell them about previous diags elsewhere, let them tell you what they find, compare notes from each shop finding..

Pump.... unlikely, dont replaces pumps on those, not a known problem..

Hose, yes the high pressure hose will leak with age/use/mile

Look at the crank pulley, those randomly seperate and make noise... but a rattle from steering pump,, I have a hard time with that one..

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QUOTE (sbr711 Feb 15 2011, 10:36 AM)
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Go get 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinions, dont tell them about previous diags elsewhere, let them tell you what they find, compare notes from each shop finding..

Pump.... unlikely, dont replaces pumps on those, not a known problem..

Hose, yes the high pressure hose will leak with age/use/mile

Look at the crank pulley, those randomly seperate and make noise... but a rattle from steering pump,, I have a hard time with that one..
Thanks. I asked them a couple of times and they said they were completely sure it is the power steering pump making the noise. I described it here as a rattle, but that may not have been the best description. Before I took the car in for all of the work, I thought there was maybe a slight valve-tap-sounding noise. Then, after the work was done, the engine seemed a little nosier than I remembered it, and a day or two later the noise seemed to increase. What they said was that in a worst case scenario, the pump shaft could possibly get loose enough to come out and that would cause the power steering to stop working. That had me thinking that they mean that the noise is from a loose shaft in the pump, and maybe with the new tighter belts etc. the loose pump shaft nosie is more pronounced. Now that the noise is fairly loud (with the hood up), it does sound more like it could be a loose shaft clunking when it turns. Plus, I think if a pulley was loose, they would be able to locate that noise when they checked it. I could be mistaken, but I don't think they are trying to trick me in any way on this.

But, yes, I will check with other places to see what they say is causing the noise. And, by doing this forum and other Internet searches, I hope to get a better idea of where the pump is located, how hard it is to access and replace, etc. Hopefully, I can find an online service manual or other way of seeing how the pump is replaced on this vehicle. And, there is also the question of whether it really needs the pressure hose replaced at the same time. Nothing is leaking -- there is just the fairly loud noise.
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QUOTE (sbr711 Feb 15 2011, 10:36 AM)
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Go get 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinions, dont tell them about previous diags elsewhere, let them tell you what they find, compare notes from each shop finding..

Pump.... unlikely, dont replaces pumps on those, not a known problem..

Hose, yes the high pressure hose will leak with age/use/mile

Look at the crank pulley, those randomly seperate and make noise... but a rattle from steering pump,, I have a hard time with that one..
Thanks again. here's just a little more followup. I looked underneath the vehicle and it is clearly too hard to get to for me to be able to replace it on my own. I did some other research online and it doesn't appear that the pressure hose has to be replaced just because the pump is being replaced. So, I checked at another dealership and their price for replacing just the pump is about $540, which is a lot less than the $800-$900 price I was given for doing the pump and the pressure hose. They said it is about a 3 hour job to replace the pump.
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Just a thought

Does the steering pump reservoir have the right amount of fluid?

You could also, get someone to rotate the steering wheel end to end and listen If the Pump "rattle" is different especially near the end of its travel...
The pump would load up a bit before it goes into bypass, and maybe at that point the bearings or internal gears will rattle differently...
If you have a long handled screwdriver you could rest the business end up against the pump and the other against your ear, (McGivor Stethoscope)
that will also help with isolating sounds...

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The pump wasn't hard to do on my 2.7l. Maybe a couple hours or less, but I dont know about the line though.
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Thank you "Whacker" and "Black318i". I didn't notice your posts until today.

I had the power steering pump replaced at a dealership last week -- under $410 total for parts, labor, and tax. It took them about 90 minutes from when they took the car into the shop until it was done. I didn't have the pressure hose replaced and it didn't need to be replaced. So the problem is solved. Everything is quiet -- no noise from pump etc.
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Hi,

I have a 2004 SF 3.5L. I'm getting a whining from what I think/thought to be the power steering pump. The tension pulley and power steering pump have been changed. It still whines, in particular after driving on the highway for a while, when the engines heats up. The reservoir overflows and has been cleaned.

Do you have any clues on what is causing this? Should I get a new reservoir?
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