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I have gained about 2mpg and the Tuc is more responsive at all times by turning off the ("ESC", "ESP", traction control,,, whatever you call it?) every time I start the Tucson, and if you check out my other post about removing the Tucson restrictive 2nd air filter (carbon filter). Recently, early results from doing both have increased power, & delivered 25mpg around town, compared to 22mpg average during mild weather.

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QUOTE (MikDee Mar 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
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I have gained about 2mpg and the Tuc is more responsive at all times by turning off the ("ESC", "ESP", traction control,,, whatever you call it?) every time I start the Tucson, and if you check out my other post about removing the Tucson restrictive 2nd air filter (carbon filter). Recently, early results from doing both have increased power, & delivered 25mpg around town, compared to 22mpg average during mild weather.

You serious?
Wonder why the traction control would make a difference.............thought it did nothing until it was actually needed.
Might have to give it a try. Unless the driving conditions warrant the need, it's not needed anyway.

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QUOTE (MikDee Mar 22 2011, 06:20 PM)
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I have gained about 2mpg and the Tuc is more responsive at all times by turning off the ("ESC", "ESP", traction control,,, whatever you call it?) every time I start the Tucson, and if you check out my other post about removing the Tucson restrictive 2nd air filter (carbon filter). Recently, early results from doing both have increased power, & delivered 25mpg around town, compared to 22mpg average during mild weather.
Sorry, mathematician that I am, you changed two variables at the same time! We don't know if one, or the other, or both caused the increase. However, I am intrigued by your other post about the air filter and if it wasn't so stinking cold in the first week of SPRING in this beautiful state of mine, I would check it out tonight. I'm going to wait until I feel a bit warmer! I have been checking my mileage religiously since Thanksgiving using an app for my WebOS phone, so it will be quite easy for me to get a quick feel for any improvement there.

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Given you tried both at the same time, I'll submit my opinion that the ESC is not affecting your MPG at all. By design, it only monitors conditions normally, so unless you're doing erratic cornering and such a lot, it should never actually play a mechanical role in anything the car does.

The filter is likely your source. I assume there's a second filter down the line to actually protect your engine. Is the carbon filter common to all the SUVs, or just the Tucson? I didn't notice it on my SF, but then again I've only started exploring the various things in it.
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Given you tried both at the same time, I'll submit my opinion that the ESC is not affecting your MPG at all. By design, it only monitors conditions normally, so unless you're doing erratic cornering and such a lot, it should never actually play a mechanical role in anything the car does.

The filter is likely your source. I assume there's a second filter down the line to actually protect your engine. Is the carbon filter common to all the SUVs, or just the Tucson? I didn't notice it on my SF, but then again I've only started exploring the various things in it.

Check out this thread.........

http://platizazvonok.ru/t61074-2010-...-filter-pix.htm

Unless you have the Tucson PZEV model you don't have the carbon filter.

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TimmyB, & ghhart, Respectfully, These both were not done at the same time. I first ran 3 tanks of gas with the ESC off to confirm this, then I ran it under both conditions, and gave my preliminary mpg results showing even better numbers.

It's a long story, but I previously owned a crystal blue 2002 Santa Fe LX 2.7 V6 4WD from new, without AWD, & ESC, and used to get 20-24mpg around town, & 24-30mpg on the highway. I thought that car was Magic! Then after 87k miles, & 3yrs, I traded it in on a new 2005 Tucson LX 2.7 V6 with the new AWD system, & ESC,,, What a mistake! The best I ever got then was 20mpg around town, & 24mpg with a good tailwind on the highway!? To top it all off the Santa Fe tires were still usable to winter at 87k miles (I used to tease my wife that we had to get new tires by winter, or a new car,,,lol).

Well, now came the 2nd great shock when my 2005 Tucson was in the body shop after my ex hit a deer. The owner called me saying the car needed tires!? I said, "What are you crazy? there's only 13k miles on that car?" Sure enough the fronts were at 4/32nds, & rears at 6/32nds! So began our unknown saga of having to replace the tires every 25-30k miles thru it's lifetime! Yes, 4 sets of tires to 100k on the odometer. All of them also perfectly symetrically worn out?

So, you tell me if the AWD, instead of 4WD, and the new ESC system on by default, does not make a difference?

Turning off the ESC on my 2005 Tucson I gained 1mpg, as long as you kept remembering to shut it off. I wish there was a way to make it off by default, & on when I choose.

I'm seriously sorry I just didn't keep my old Santa Fe till the wheels fell off, that vehicle did everything Well!

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TimmyB, & ghhart, Respectfully, These both were not done at the same time.
Well, why didn't you say so? Now, I understand.

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I'm seriously sorry I just didn't keep my old Santa Fe till the wheels fell off, that vehicle did everything Well!
Me, too. We mistakenly let our son have that car and got the 2006 Sportage. While it was a nice vehicle, we never loved it as much as that first SF! My wife still cringes every time we see a Merlot 1st-gen Santa Fe drive by.

I wonder just how much the AWD system of Hyundai hurts the mpg. I have only had FWD with them, with my Audi being the only AWD vehicle. I have been very satisfied with my mileage so far, but I was NEVER expecting it to be near 30, unless I was willing to drive at a perfect 70 mph, or less, on the highway, and that is NOT going to happen simply from a safety standpoint.

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I have been turning off the ESC for a couple of months now and am pretty sure there is a difference. I didn't post anything about it because i thought maybe it was also just causing me to drive more economically...which is certainly possible. i get about 1.5 mpg better than i was the first month or so of owning my car.

maybe it is all a placebo effect but since someone else has now mentioned this...maybe there's something more to it.
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is ESC? Do I have that on my 2010 FWD GLS, or is it something that only AWD models have? Is it a button on the dash? I'm in the office right now, so I can't see my car. I'll have a look at it in a little while when I go home.

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you have it...i have a GLS FWD too. it's to the lower left of the steering wheel. you can't really see it while you are driving, you kinda just have to know where it is to push it.

i think ESC is Electronic Stability Control.

if you test it, make sure you're on a full tank of gas so your MPG counter resets.
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