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And for the fine carbon gritty GDI soot that seems to be common in my filters at every oil change








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Great spring loaded BPV


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Perfectly working soft pliable ADBV(black nitrile rubber?)


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Great pictures.
Just did an oil and filter change with the same Fram filter.
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Microgreen filter from 2 oil changes ago
Long Term Evaluation of Aftermarket Oil Filter

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I guess this 2.4GDI filter loads about a teaspoon of carbon/soot/grit/ash every 6 month 3750 miles and tracked about 170 hrs of run time averaging 21mph.... yes mostly city severe service driving with a couple weekend highway trips.

I didn't post pictures of my 2nd used Microgreen filter because it was similar(if not cleaner) than the 1st microgreen filter cut open and shown in the above mentioned thread link.

I have a couple more Microgreen filters to use and will NOT buy them again. The Fram Orange Can did an excellent job.

BTW, my oil looks just like "diesel engine oil" after about a 1000 miles. It loads up with soot that quickly.

My engine does not burn any oil anymore. The oil level was full at the end of this interval and didn't require any top offs. 30k miles ago, she'd eat a quart in 1k miles and easily 3 quarts in a 6 month run. I can only surmise that the rings load up with carbon, work poorly, and turn the engine into an oil burner. It only took about 20k and 4 conventional/blend bulk oil changes to create an oil burner. 30k+ and ~10 synthetic oils changes, some with with various snake oils, to clean her up.

Hard to believe that it'll continue to load up the filter with this much mud REGULARLY.

Have 2 more Fram filters on the shelf(different older PN that isn't recommend for Hyundais anymore hahahaha). I will use them if they don't make noise ;-)

Installed a new -04 OE filter for this run just to see how it does. Will cut it open to compare to the older -03 OE filter PN's that others have posted over the years. Have a couple warranty and recalls that need to be addressed now and haven't visited dealer in some time.

BTW, I highly recommend this filter. It did a great job. Not a hint of engine running or startup noise. Pleats were plenty and well spaced out except the seam gap which is normal. BPV had good spring tension. ADBV held plenty of oil. Fram filter media captured more soot than I could scrape out of either Microgreen filter. The fiber end caps were in perfect condition with all the media pleats glued on just fine....like any quality cartridge filter. There were obviously NO tears or filter media damage. Media seemed plenty strong and none of the pleats were pushed around. Fram definitely got this PN right!

Don't forget if orange can is too cheap for you, you can get the fancier Fram ToughGard or Ultra filters....TG9688 or XG9688.

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Tough center tube spiral core or whatever you want to call it




Picture of simple to use filter cut open tool along with a fancy white media/glue/endcap inspection tool that also doubles as a media sludge scraper(pizza slice of sludge smudge next to tip of plastic knife).


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Why would anyone buy a Fram when the OEM filters are $5 all day long?


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Because the Fram effectively filters at <25 micron and the OE filter does 50 micron... at least the older -03 pn was... still waiting on more info on the newer -04 PN.
Because some of us have a clue and understand what a filter is suppose to do.....hint its a verb that is spelled the same way as the noun!
Because the local autopart store is 5 minutes away and the local hyundai and kia dealer is 45 minutes away.
Because the local Hyundai and Kia dealers both charge $9 a filter.
Because the local autoparts stores have friendlier clerks when compared to the male sexual organs working at the dealership.
Because I have the freedom of choice and prefer to spend money any way I want for better products. Hyundai and their dealers have wronged me plenty so why should I support them? BTW, my air filter, PCV valve, serpentine belt, antifreeze, ATF, brake fluid.... are also non-Hyundai products.
And, to prove that it is an excellent filter and it is!

There is a particle count UOA showing and a youtube Hyundai video stating similar info..... pathetic 50 micron filtration on the -03 part number.
If you have ANY filtration data that proves that the OE filter is oh so superior to ANY aftermarket filter, please post it.

GDI soot is small and abrasive and I don't want it circulating in my engine with its defective/dirty/starved bearings. Enjoy your soot passing thru that OE filter.

I currently have an OE -04 filter installed to see if it can gather/catch ANY of the grit/soot/carbon crud that the previous 1/2 dozen non-OE different brand filters caught. I can only hope that the new PN is better but understand that maybe the manufacturing simply moved to another further southern location due to the escalation of tension in the not shared anymore Korean border industrial park.

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